Miles Copeland: You’re like a yo-yo, going back and forth between two completely different ideas of who you are.
Amy Heckerling: Yeah. You’re always trying to figure out how to just stay in the game.
Copeland: You have to choose your environment.
Heckerling: So the idea that people are in a swimming pool, like what the hell is that?
Copeland: People assume you’re wealthy. Needless to say, a dispute comes up.
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Heckerling: If you tried to make an enlargement and you didn’t have the exact right settings and it came out dark you had to beg, borrow, and steal another piece of paper from somebody and it was so expensive and it was driving me nuts.
Copeland: We were in panic mode, trying to find a replacement, and it just kind of fell apart.
Heckerling: These things make you feel like a loser. [laughs] Why not wear rose-colored glasses?
Copeland: Probably, I don’t remember.
Heckerling: That’s an awesome secret language.
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Copeland: A company grows, and more people come into it, and with more people, more opinions.
Heckerling: It hit me that I was insanely jealous because, who told them they could do that?
Copeland: They believed in what they were doing, and that belief is infectious.
Heckerling: If you were in New York every week there was a strike and the garbage was taller than your head and everything was covered in graffiti and crime was all over the place.
Copeland: But then I’d fly off back to England, or on the road with the Police or Sting.