Rjyan Kidwell: I'm trying to take that pop culture stuff, everything from the sickeningly contrived psycho-murderers to the sickeningly contrived pop starlets.
Elissa Schappell: When I was a girl, my family always sang that on car trips.
Kidwell: Towards the sacred distance between artist and audience.
Schappell: It was angry and articulate, and you could dance to it.
Kidwell: No mouse pads or anything gay like that.
Schappell: Not my jam.
Kidwell: You understand correctly. You don’t even need to like it.
Schappell: Harder, too, when you’re not a stoned teenager. It's my job as a writer to say the things that everybody knows, but no one wants to talk about.
Kidwell: All the music ever. And the food, my God, the food.
Schappell: I could do this for days.
Kidwell: I’m sure there are tons of people who will testify.
Schappell: Starting with young women. What about you?
Kidwell: I got shot in the chest and as I was lying on the floor of my room, this giant came and told me three things that I would find to be true.
Schappell: He'd call sometimes two, three times a night to revise the list. I wanted to give her that distance.
Kidwell: So she’s mine.