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Nov 13, 2026, 06:27AM

That’s Where the Fascination Started

A 2025 The Ransom Note interview with house music DJ Ron Trent vs. a 2012 Pin-Up interview with architect Jeanne Gang.

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Jeanne Gang: One day it would be there, the next day it might change to something else.

Ron Trent: That back-and-forth shaped the final compositions.

Gang: Not really. No. I guess…yeah. (Laughs) True.

Trent: That’s where the fascination started.

Gang: And that’s OK, but it’s also not exactly the most fun thing to talk about all the time.

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Trent: It’s almost like tailoring a suit—the cut, the fabric, the style, all have to complement the person wearing it.

Gang: That really sticks out in my mind, more so than, say, the Eiffel Tower or something like that.

Trent: Being tied to the past is a blessing if it’s used as a foundation, not a limitation.

Gang: Surviving was a pretty big challenge—just getting paid.

Trent: Some people seem to be more about concentrating on things that don’t matter to a certain degree.

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Gang: But then we lost our brick-masonry donation so we decided to expose the concrete, using different types of mixes.

Trent: It’s a relief but also a kind of letting go.

Gang: For sure! They care about it.

Trent: That openness has always stayed with me.

Gang: Have you ever been to Mesa Verde National Park in Colorado?

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