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Dec 31, 2010, 04:43AM

St. Louis: The Most Dangerous, Racist City In America

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My grandmother lives in Florissant, Missouri, a northern and really black suburb of St. Louis County. It’s not like “the hood” or anything like that, there’s just a whole lot of black people—a few too many for those prejudiced tea partying white folks hiding among us. For me, coming back to St. Louis for the holidays has always been really strange because I’m just not used to bigotry. But in St. Louis, the level of separatism only leads to deeper racial hatred and stereotyping.

So I’m at the St. Louis Bread Company, right? All I wanted to do is escape the house to work on my Tina Turner project. I get in the cafe and see that it’s super packed, totally full, and I waltz over to the front counter to place my order. Waiting for me is a very cafeteria-looking lady (short, with a hairnet, gigantic glasses) with a nasty look on her face the second she sees me. I’m not wearing anything particularly outrageous, this outfit is as suburban as I go. But she just stares at me, doesn’t say “HOWAREYOUDOINGWELCOMETOBREADCOMPANY!” all excited like she did for the white peeps who just ordered ahead of me. So I’m like, “Ain’t this some shit,” and I literally just stand there, waiting for her to greet me. This is a test. And something like 15 seconds flies by—no joke—before she acknowledges me; I’m just standing right there.

I order and she is just pissed the hell off. She snatches the muffin and rolls her eyes and snatches the Apple juice and huffs and puffs and talks at me like I’m a fucking idiot. So when she hands me my breakfast, which at this point I’m not that into anymore, I’m say, “Hey, lady! If you’re too good to hand me a damn muffin, maybe you should get a different job!”

I guess when you live in New York, or in any cosmopolitan city, you forget that there are still bigoted people in the world. But remember: this is the city that saw over 100,000 people gather under the Gateway Arch to catch a glimpse of Barack Obama before he was elected president. But it’s also the same city that back in the Spring of 2009 had a fit when the weekly Riverfront Times ran a cover story with a picture of a black and white couple kissing.

Where does all this hatred come from?

In St. Louis, white people run from black people, because black people are very scary, obviously. The day of the After-Christmas-Sales at the St. Louis Galleria (the high-end mall), a bunch of black dudes looted cars in the mall parking lot and it made the nightly news. When I saw this on the television, I got so pissed off when the anchors specified that black males did the stealing. Really? Did they really need to specify the race? What new details does that add to the story, other than turning up the sentiment that You Need To Grab Your Purse When You See Black People? And then there were your average mall goers, saying things on-air like, “The Galleria has become pretty sketchy as of late.” Translation: There are too many damn black people here!

It’s true that there are a lot more black people at The Galleria now than there were several years back, and it’s especially “troublesome” because The Galleria is located in a crisp, very wealthy neighborhood that has long been among the wealthiest in St. Louis. If The Galleria collapses, there goes the neighborhood! And that’s why the mall instituted a policy where if you’re under the age of 16 and in the mall past five p.m., you have to be chaperoned. And that adds to the perception of crime, and to the perception of black people as innate crime doers, which leads to bitchy old white Tea Party ladies like my BFF at Bread Company who cringe at just the sight of black people.

The irony, to me anyway, is that nowadays in most other cities, white people don’t run from black people, but actively take over their neighborhoods. They asses just move right on in! White Flight, as it’s called, was about white people getting the hell out of cities and into the safe bosom of the newly developed suburbs. In New York, white people aren’t afraid to move deep into the hood for a renovated kitchen, hardwood floors, and $1200 rent for a two bedroom plus balcony. You might get mugged on your way home, but it’s a small price to pay for exposed brick and an express train stop! Besides, with the right amount of white people in the hood, it’s only a matter of time before an Organic Grocery/Art Gallery/Coffee Shop pops up.

But in St. Louis, the exact opposite trend is happening. Everything is painfully segregated, and white people keep moving farther and farther away. Downtown St. Louis will never amount to much until the city’s deep-rooted racism is adequately addressed.

Discussion
  • All I take from this article is how incredibly racist you are.

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  • Re-read the article. Madison Moore is hardly a racist. Far from it.

  • I get a racist impression as well. If I asked a black server if they were too damn good to hand me a muffin, I'd bet you'd say I was a racist.

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  • St. Louis is hardly the most dangerous or racist city in America. I live in St. Louis and have lived in several of the places noted by visitors to our fair city as dangerous and disagree. If you act walk in with an air of contempt for being in such a small suburban dining establishment, you will be treated like an outcast. This will happen whether you are white, black, hispanic, asian or an other ethnic group you choose to highlight. Segregration is alive an well in all cities in America. Stop by china town in NYC, wearing your finest (insert demographic tag) outfit and look down your nose at the hard working person behind the counter and utter some uppity order, just see how different and racist your environment has become. You create your own reality. St. Louis is actually a fine city with many multicultural groups living together in peace, happiness, and thriving in this world.

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  • I do not read racism on his part. I read wariness of and weariness of racism. He is sensitive to the differences in the way he was treated by the service staff at the counter. He did allow that to trigger in him a response rather than overlook her shortcomings, but I would be hard-pressed to claim I would have done better if I had been ignored and huffed-at, and I am the same race, age and gender as she was...

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  • I've read the article more than once and I stand by what I said.

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  • So you stand by your baseless claim? Care to, you know, actually defend your argument?

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  • You know, using phrases like "white folk" tends to be viewed as racist. Same with sentences like "Besides, with the right amount of white people in the hood, it’s only a matter of time before an Organic Grocery/Art Gallery/Coffee Shop pops up." Plus her linking things such as a curfew to racism. I can't believe I had to lay that out for you....

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  • Boz, I just take a small amount of enjoyment watching anonymous Internet commenters furrow their little brows and attempt to give voice to their grievances.

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  • I take a small amount of enjoyment knowing you have nothing to say against my comment. You asked and I answered. Oh, and I didn't just "attempt".

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  • i live downtown. not from here. lived in 4 major cities. stl IS segregated. but it's not chicago, which is ridiculous. i think one peon at "panera bread" (find it comical they call it stLbc, its panera) doesn't acknowledge you, one idiot does not make a city. with that being said, i am conflicted as i've worked with 'whites' who 'won't go downtown after 9pm' or don't like to 'cross the bridge' over into st louis county. people freaked out when i told them i was going to Benton Park. christ it's no worse then hyde park in chicago or adams morgan or bensonhurst brooklyn. however when there's a drive by on natural bridge and pine lawn is pulling me over for going 13 over on 70, the city does have it's priorities wrong.

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  • "Besides, with the right amount of white people in the hood, it’s only a matter of time before an Organic Grocery/Art Gallery/Coffee Shop pops up." in reading other posts: this did bother me as well. as if the author is suggesting only 'white folk in cities bring coffee shops or art museums.' try london, paris, ny. newsflash! there's 5 starbucks in the boogie down bronx! while the author makes some valid points, she still needs to be a bit more intellectual. and i do not believe "I'm say" is a correct transition.. I’m say, “Hey, lady! If you’re too good to hand me a damn muffin, maybe you should get a different job!”

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  • Enough already!!! "white folk" is not a racist term. As for curfews, can anyone tell me the last time a curfew was instituted in the U.S. that did not pertain to a minority issue? I really can't think of one.

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  • I prefer to be called honky.

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  • People like Boz et al read "white folk" and something in their brain lights up. It's uncanny, and pretty depressing.

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  • As do I.

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  • I'll respond to "Whitebread" as well.

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  • Cake eater.

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  • Personally, I prefer cracker but will not discriminate against you honkies and cake eaters. That would just be racist.

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  • thank you for that comment, texan. so it goes with malls, for instance, the first efforts to curb black youth from going to shopping malls was to keep local bus routes from easy access to the joint. that PLUS the curfews. read lizabeth cohen on the issue. happy black history month, everybody!

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  • The Organic Grocery/Art Gallery/Coffee Shop pops up is the most glaringly racist part and I'm not the only one that feels that way. I must be a racist for pointing this out though. I have nothing more to say since none of you can even attempt to refute any of my statements. The staff takes personal jabs at people instead.. real sign of intelligence there.

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  • I agree with Boz on this one. While STL may be considered segregated, it is not solely to blame on the "white folk", as evidenced by this article. I also find it funny that you indicate that downtown STL will never amount to much unless white people move back in. REALLY?! If I wrote an article about the rude "black folk" at McD's (who never utters a word, just takes my money and shoves a bag through my car window) there would be an uproar. Let's stop kidding ourselves with the reverse racism here. If you want the attitude and mindset of the "white folk" to change, start the change within yourself. --"Be the change you wish to see in the world."

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  • Here's one for ya...last night local hip hop artist Nite Owl walked right past my white husband and handed a CD to our black friend (who doesn't like hip hop). That's awfully assuming, isn't it?

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  • Is your white husband a cracker? What color is Nite Owl?

  • I prefer to call him a country ass, thanks for asking.

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  • Oh yes, south city and boz, let's stop kidding ourselves here (I love how this article finally gives you the chance to TELL IT LIKE IT IS about those awful black workers at McDs, glad you got that off your chest?). Madison makes a few points. 1. Scene: coffee shop; white worker treats everyone all nice and fine and then when his fine black self comes along she shuts up and acts like a dick. It's a personal anecdote. There's nothing to refute here. 2. City flips out over mixed-race picture; city newscast singles out black crime; city imposes ridiculous new laws concerning young kids at the mall, who are more and more black. 3. In bigger cities in the country, gentrification represents the opposite movement: white/richer people move into poorer areas for the real estate and the chance to open up organic muffin shops where presumably the workers there won't blatantly discriminate. But please, let's hear more stories about all the wrongs black people have done to you in your lives! It's not racist!

  • This article is actually rather useless. The issue at hand has very little to do with skin color. Everyone wants to make themselves out to be the victim. What is a damn muffin shop gonna do for the ghetto? Nothing. Take some responsibility. How did Madison approach the employee? I doubt it was with a smile. This isn't about black or white, this is about perception. We all deal with judgemental and adverse people, it's how we react that defines us.

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  • Oh, and don't bend my words to your benefit. I never said they were "awful black workers". Just playing off Madison's focus on the skin color of a rude employee.

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  • This article is ridiculous. 1 person with an attitude does not a racist make... Can anyone write an article? I want to take this moment to explain how a black or white person can get past their own confusion and see true racism. If you cannot reverse the colors of the people in the story without it seeming racist, then it IS racist. And yes saying "white folk hiding among us" or "bitchy old white tea party ladies" is racist. for instance If I was to say, "a few too many for those prejudiced tea partying black folks hiding among us." OR "bitchy old black tea party ladies" Also "I'm say" is not proper, to the guy who thought it was. Furthermore. I am an extremely good judge of character and ive studied people my whole life, Ive lived in many major cities and st louis IS one of the most racist places ive ever lived in, but the racism is extremely strong from the black people and very rare from the white people. I havent heard 5 white people in the 15 years ive lived here spouting racist remarks, yet nearly every single black person ive known has said something racist to me either in a disagreement or just in conversation like its nothing. I have a couple of good friends from Nigeria and they are literally disgusted by the racism they see. They constantly are forced to confront their friends ignorant comments and it upsets them and they lose friends as well. I moved here without a racist bone in my body, and havent changed a bit. But Ive also learned that almost no black people feel the same way about me or treat me with the same respect. I still have a few black friends and many more who I know longer know. I wont even get started on how utterly racist the paragraph that starts with, white people dont run from black people, and ends with organic shops opening up. thats is exactly equal to some white racist saying black people dont run from whites and if black people move in to the neighborhood a _______ will open up. Insert something stereotypical like popeyes chicken, or liquor store.... IGNORANCE IS IGNORANCE IS IGNORANT.. The very first step to ending racism is not having any within yourself and the second is having the ability to see it in others, be they your black friends or white friends. Truth

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  • 1. Who died and made you the grand arbitor of racism. 2. Despite your claims of not having a racist bone in your body, your own dissertation on what constitutes racism is not only lacking, simple, and naive; you break your own guidelines by generalizing how "But Ive also learned that almost no black people feel the same way about me or treat me with the same respect" How many black people do you know? How many have you actually discussed their respect or lack thereof with? It statements like these that forces one to question the merits of your other statements like being a good judge of character and not being racist thus nullifing your entire argument

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  • I find Madison Moore's article far too general and slightly offensive to St. Louis as a whole. I think it's in the best interests of Splicetoday and its writers if it not support a negative and nonconstructive attitude towards entire metropolitan areas. (This is what happens when Yale allows Pop Culture to be an area of study).

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  • Byrd92, we thank you for your comments and/or suggestions regarding Splice Today's editorial policy. We're happy you have the intellectual and rhetorical fortitude to condemn Mr. Moore's generalized, anecdotal jab at St. Louis with ... a generalized jab at Yale. Your sense of irony and nuance is truly humbling to all of us. -- The Splice Today Editorial Board

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  • Liked your article, but the photo of the black/white couple was on the cover of the Post-Dispatch's Go! weekend guide, not the Riverfront Times.

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  • St. Louis is incredibly racist, I have lived here all my life. I lived in Florissant before blacks moved out here, and I see how the neighborhood has changed. The white people hate that us black people have moved out here, because as usual with every predominately white neighborhood when too many blacks move in they move out. If they don't want us shopping at the Galleria, why don't they let us have our own malls, oops! I know why because black people are thugs and they steal. North County has changed since I was a little girl and being one of a handful of black families living out here. There use to be stores gallore out here ie Jamestown Mall, now there are only liquor stores and beauty shops. Funny when it comes to true articles like this, the white people come out of the wood works to say they're not racist. They are racist! They let me know everyday what color I am.

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  • One more thing! Go to a Cardinals baseball game and you can count on one hand the blacks that are there. They don't want us downtown on the riverfront either, you should see how the police ride down on the blacks just trying to enjoy the scenery. I know my kind are not welcomed anywhere in St. Louis.

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  • OMG! I am so glad I found this article. I moved to University City about three years ago and I just recently moved across town to Florissant. I'm from Virginia and I thought that some Virginians were racist but it does not compare to the white AND black people of St. Louis! the white people here are blatantly offensive. They openly insult black and minority people. I work in the public service field and a few of my coworkers try to avoid cases involving black people. to make matters worse the black people here are indoctrinated with self-hatred! I have heard many black people here say that dark people are ugly while fairer skinned people are beautiful. It is sickening. The racial climate here is totally stuck in Jim Crow!

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  • Now I'm white and I'm thinking what the crap? I mean if people can't treat others with respect, the entire USA is gonna be separated! All people are created equal, and what does color or race really matter? I mean I be pretty pissed off if some person treated me differently just because I'm white, rather there being kinder or mean! I mean where I am Asians are made fun of big time. I said it once and I'll say it again, what does color or race matter?

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  • I was born in D.C. in 1931. Lived in foggy bottom and other Downtown spots in D.C. Everyone was too busy scuffling to pay much attention to anyone else with an attitude. Hey, racism is a two way street. Depends on who you are and where you are from. I can honestly say that this peckerwood, honky, ofay, redneck, M.F. never had a serious problem with ANYBODY, Went to all the clubs, Pussy's, Mitchells 7th and T, and some others I can't remember the name of. Played cards in a basement around 16th and R. Never had a problem except with one redbone I was in love with. Maybe it boils down to this: "If I don't have an attitude,and you don't have an attitude, we can get together and party.

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  • St Louis may have lots of racism, but as someone who grew up in NYC I take great issue with the statement "when you live in New York, or in any cosmopolitan city, you forget that there are still bigoted people in the world."

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  • And "the right amount of white people in the hood, it’s only a matter of time before an Organic Grocery/Art Gallery/Coffee Shop pops up" reeks of gentrification apologism. Makes me miss pre-hipster Brooklyn badly.

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  • Sorry bud, I love ya, and your articles, but after you re-posted this one, I just find some of the assertions you make in this article a bit troubling. Keep up the work raising important issues. Just, you know, don't condemn an entire city like that in one fell swoop. I'll introduce you to some super nice and un-racist St Louis folk next time we're both there.

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  • It’s funny because I’m not from here, but I can definitely say that from what I’ve witnessed over the last 7 years, white people feel the way they do for a reason. We need to start taking responsibility for the crimes we commit every day, the violence we visit on each other every day, and the complete disregard for law and order that some of us embrace every day. White people have their problems too, and they have to work on them….but we can’t keep pointing fingers and saying absurd things because I’d move too if I were white….i don’t want to live around this crime and bullshit either. It’s funny how this fact escapes people: blacks fled crime ridden cities to move to safer, whiter areas…eventually this once white areas that are now more or mostly black are crime ridden and some of us want to leave to safer white areas again…this cycle will repeat itself until we stop playing the victims and own up to our part in the decline of our culture, our families, and our neighborhoods.

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