Maurice Tuchman: You know, a narrative of action and counteraction, one set of formalist ideas replacing another.
Khyree “Ekkstacy” Zienty: I wear the same thing every day. But usually I listen to a lot of punk and metal to get me excited.
Tuchman: Perhaps it was in the nature of the times then to be prejudiced against spirituality as something irrational that couldn’t be taken seriously.
Zienty: Yeah. I know, I’m doomed.
Tuchman: Are you kidding?
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Zienty: That’s a great question.
Tuchman: It was so difficult to do the first one that I figured the second one couldn’t be that hard.
Zienty: I don’t know, there’s too many. We had to upgrade the venues three times for each one.
Tuchman: Which made me feel a bit guilty.
Zienty: I was so bummed.
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Tuchman: I remember one day in 1968 when Ed Janss, a fabulously rich but thoughtful guy, and an important collector at that time, came up to me and said he wanted to show me a mountain top that I should live on.
Zienty: I like that. Shout out to L.A., dude.
Tuchman: But it took a long time, with attention growing in Europe first.
Zienty: Everything’s sold out in Germany.
Tuchman: It was as if a window shade came up and light came in.