John Lydon: Everything you do is a character, or a characterisation of what you assume you are.
Van Jones: You don’t have to do anything else.
Lydon: I would hope so. I never did. I’m proper.
Jones: Listen, but guess what?
Lydon: I’m uninterested. Peace.
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Jones: We are on track now for a tragedy.
Lydon: We just can’t help it.
Jones: Period.
Lydon: And by the time we get to the moaning and groaning, it's too late, the damage is done.
Jones: End of story, we’re done. Right?
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Lydon: And the media definitely resented it, because it was the end of their cushy careers and society as they knew it, and everything suddenly became open for conjecture.
Jones: You can't have an honest conversation.
Lydon: Yeah. I wouldn’t.
Jones: Because you can’t.
Lydon: No. Because it shows the stupidity of domestic situations and how they could explode, if we were lesser people, into something horribly serious.