Lydia Lunch: There are hundreds, thousands of people that we don't know about. They get no coverage. They get no press.
Jimmy Carter: There's no-one like that around.
Lunch: Yeah, we were neighbors.
Carter: They claim they are not.
Lunch: Now I'm in Pennsylvania.
Carter: I just got back from North Korea.
Lunch: That's why they cannot embrace me.
Carter: I had a small, hand-held Dictaphone. And so I—when I finished up a tape, I just threw it in the out basket. I never looked at it again. I put a new tape in.
Lunch: I didn't think it was poetic enough. It was a pigsty.
Carter: That's a case on both sides, as you say.
Lunch: Start somewhere.
Carter: So I think some of it is racist.
Lunch: Absolutely. That is a luxury.
Carter: No kidding. And also it's surrounded by I understand strip joints and commercial establishments and so forth.
Lunch: What can one do?
Carter: Yes, I knew I was going to do it.
Lunch: I had to. There is so much to struggle against.
Carter: My health is good, thank goodness.
Lunch: I think that's a real threat.
I Just Got Back From North Korea
A 1997 Perfect Sound Forever interview with author/musician Lydia Lunch vs. a 2010 Larry King Live interview with former president Jimmy Carter.