Udo Kier: We met again after many years, and it was very strange.
Don DeLillo: If I take a walk, a street that has four people on it will seem almost crowded.
Kier: You know when you go out and you want to see other people, but you end up standing on the corner just talking with each other?
DeLillo: You’re right. You want to go to a museum and eat in a restaurant.
Kier: Most of them had never done this before, and it was such an incredible experience for them.
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DeLillo: It’s uncontrollable. Whatever technology is capable of doing becomes what it must do.
Kier: The only good thing about this is that computers don't have a soul, so it never will work.
DeLillo: The answer is that I’m just going to see what happens.
Kier: For example, do you know how many men in the world have never cleaned a window?
DeLillo: Honestly, I’m not aware of that. [Laughs] I’m just babbling.
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Kier: You can run naked through New York and the police will arrest you, and you say, “I'm researching my next film, and I have to research the feeling of running naked through Fifth Avenue in the winter.”
DeLillo: There are famous athletes who did that.
Kier: Oh, yeah. Exactly.
DeLillo: For people of my age or perhaps a little younger, this is what overtook the entire culture.
Kier: That was my first day of life. Which was an accident, because I was just looking for the camera.