Jaron Lanier: We don’t know what meaning is and we can’t represent meaning.
Vanessa Pirotta: Yeah. My budget at university was very limited.
Lanier: It makes you less able to make good decisions.
Pirotta: I’ve done everything right on my end. Everyone’s safe.
Lanier: I think that’s the road that leads to our potential extinction through insanity.
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Pirotta: You don’t have to be close to whales.
Lanier: It shouldn’t be unusual; I think it should be more common.
Pirotta: Absolutely.
Lanier: Synthesizers haven’t killed violins.
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Pirotta: We did really well.
Lanier: I think we might be something special.
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Pirotta: He lowered the drone, he opened the Petri dish, and flew right in.
Lanier: That’s imaginable.
Pirotta: I’m not.
Lanier: That becomes a cultural dynamic and I trust people to handle that well.