Lizzi Bougatsos: There were all these Hasidic men driving around in vans late at night, trying to pick me up.
Stan Lee: At first I thought it was a gag, you know, but then I realized they were serious.
Bougatsos: But we actually really are.
Lee: They were born that way.
Bougatsos: An IUD is one of those methods of birth control that you use to block the sperm.
Lee: But it sold all over.
Bougatsos: I love it. It was very, very different then.
Lee: When I wrote the dialogue, instead of writing it in a vacuum with nothing to look at I was looking at the picture so I could pinpoint that dialogue exactly so it matched what the illustration was.
Bougatsos: Let me see. You can get away with a lot, and I think that's inspiring.
Lee: So you see it all holds together beautifully.
Bougatsos: I don’t feel like it's eggs anymore, maybe water balloons, or paint guns.
Lee: Yeah. Everybody figures it out in a second.
Bougatsos: Yeah, I would say so. When I make work, yeah.
Lee: You know what it is?
Bougatsos: I do, yeah. I know, I just feel like it’s a really universal-sounding music, and I think that people from all over the world can relate to it. Like very random collaborations, people playing together.
Lee: Oh, I couldn't agree more. It means upward and onward to greater glory.
Bougatsos: Or maybe machetes, which is really scary.
Everybody Figures It Out In A Second
A National Endowment for the Arts interview with comic book legend Stan Lee vs. a Black Book interview with Gang Gang Dance singer Lizzi Bougatsos.