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Sep 23, 2024, 06:27AM

Visions of Freedom

Readings about positive and negative liberty.

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I’d just written an article about details when I became perplexed by some details of others’ writings at Splice Today. I was struck that Tom Joyce’s piece “Catholics for Trump” seemed to endorse “the Catholic viewpoint” on abortion: “Yes to treating miscarriages and abortions that protect the mother’s life, but otherwise, no.” That differed from an earlier Joyce piece allowing various exceptions, which I’d criticized as requiring impractical oversight by government-sanctioned authorities, and now I posted comments inquiring about Joyce’s apparent change of position. As of this writing, I’ve gotten no answer.

Todd Seavey’s “Weimar-a-Lago” included criticism of Timothy Snyder’s new book, On Freedom, which I happen to be reading (or “reading,” in that I’m doing so out of order, much as I read William Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich as a kid, opening to parts that interest me most, final chapters first). Todd, whom I recently had lunch with to introduce him to my son on the third day of the Star Trek timeline’s Bell Riots, wrote: “Not only does his brand-new book On Freedom peddle the usual Political Philosophy 101 half-truths about how we need a big welfare state and a whole scheme of ‘positive liberty’ because property rights don’t guarantee you won’t end up sleeping under a bridge etc., but in his embarrassingly unphilosophical effort to blame his present-day ideological foes for the deep wrongs of Ukrainian history, he has even described the Nazis as pursuing a program of libertarianism in that land.”

I looked through Snyder’s book to see where the Nazi occupation of Ukraine’s described as libertarian, and didn’t find it, and while it’s possible I haven’t looked hard enough, I then realized Seavey wrote that Snyder “has” described it that way, which raises the possibility he was invoking something Snyder wrote or said some other time, which makes fact-checking it that much harder. (Sometimes, in my professional fact-checking, I’m tasked with a verification needing massive effort, such as a manuscript I saw recently that mentioned various things allegedly somewhere in a collection of 38 PDFs about UFOs, and after a quick perusal I submitted a query suggesting that the authors provide a little more specificity.)

Snyder is critical of libertarianism, writing: “Deniers of climate change and oligarchal escapists often call themselves ‘libertarians.’ If libertarianism means that liberty is the value of values, then this is a libertarian book. As generally formulated in the United States, however, libertarianism is an ideology of submission to the nonexistent ‘free market,’ based on contradictions and lies.” Noting that government research and subsidies have been crucial to digital technologies and fossil fuels, Snyder argues that libertarians promote a “mindless binarism: ‘free market’ good, government bad,” and: “Like Marxism, libertarianism functions as both science and religion.” I can see why Todd doesn’t like this book.

For my part, as an ex-libertarian, albeit one who thinks “free market” a useful approximation for prices and transactions set mainly by buyers and sellers, I agree liberty can’t be seen solely in negative terms (as freedom from government coercion). In a 2011 piece for David Frum’s webzine FrumForum, I championed government spending on science and infrastructure, for example: “It’s hard for me to see how terminating research projects that are too large-scale or long-term for the private sector would yield greater choices of technologies and careers. It would produce more freedom only in the sense that a man stranded on a tiny desert island is wonderfully free because he doesn’t have to pay any taxes.”

Based on partial reading, I’ll refrain from opining whether Snyder’s vision of positive freedom appeals to me, though I note that he breaks it into the following elements: sovereignty, unpredictability, mobility, factuality and solidarity. I’ve long thought physical mobility’s a key part of freedom, as my desert island example indicates; this has factored into my skepticism about an anarcho-capitalist vision in which streets would be privately owned, and also about libertarians who look favorably on mass deportations as a way to boost liberty, since the expellees are presumed to be dependents on the welfare state.

The Harris-Walz campaign, for which my lawn sign recently arrived, has taken a rhetorical tack of emphasizing “freedom.” This is contested by Republicans who argue the candidates, and the Democrats more broadly, aren’t reliable defenders of free speech, or are inclined toward excessive regulation and authoritarianism more broadly. That counter might’ve been deployed more effectively by some other Republican ticket, or other version of the Republican Party, which hadn’t shown an enthusiasm for destroying woke books, overturning elections, and setting abortion bans with few if any exceptions.

—Follow Kenneth Silber on X: @kennethsilber

Discussion
  • Ken, I'm finding it real hard to see the Democrats being the party of freedom, despite the anti-freedom points from the GOP you listed. That's whataboutism. Since you don't address the legitimate points you named that the GOP cites as proof the Dems don't value basic freedoms, it makes it appear that whataboutism is your entire argument. Perhaps you're determined not to see what you don't want to see, as most partisans are. The Dems' candidate once called, when she was DA, for single mothers to be jailed in San Francisco if their children were truants. Those were the words of a hardcore authoritarian. She jailed many black pot smokers even though she admitted that she had smoked pot, which made her laugh. So she's a hypocrite too. Under "Uncle Tim" Walz's governorship, people who walked outside their homes during covid were shot with rubber bullets by cops yelling at them with the tone of jackboots. I wonder how anyone watching the disturbing video of this behavior could not find it chilling and disqualifying. Anyone who scratches beneath the surface of the two jingoists you favor can see where their real instincts lie, and the people will be reminded of this after they're elected, because they've put a lid on divulging policy positions. Also, you say the GOP supports "destroying" books, which I assume is a reference to one state, Florida, where I live. Could you provide a number of "woke" titles that have been destroyed? I know that I could provide quite a few titles of books that have been censored by the woke "sensitivity readers" publishing houses now hire, a practice associated with the Democratic Party.

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  • On the books, I was referring to the recent disposal by New College of Florida, and this morning had some interesting exchanges on X about it, which you can trace here: https://x.com/sjgiardini/status/1838173337991643534 . But a broader picture of book bans would be here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/23/pen-book-bans and the banning of titles such as Go Tell It on the Mountain should make it clear this is a right-wing phenomenon.

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  • The Minnesota video I understand was about enforcing a curfew in the George Floyd riots, not about Covid rules. https://patch.com/minnesota/southwestminneapolis/no-tim-walz-did-not-enforce-mn-covid-curfew-paint-ball-rounds

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  • The truancy story I would suggest reading these: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/10/17/924766186/the-story-behind-kamala-harriss-truancy-program https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/17/politics/kamala-harris-2011-california-truancy/index.html She acknowledges errors, but I also gather that parents being arrested was not a common result, but it did happen in some cases.

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  • To elaborate on the book issue, my statement that the Republican Partry has "shown an enthusiasm for destroying woke books," I think is well-evidenced by the Christopher Rufo tweet I cited here: https://x.com/kennethsilber/status/1838185928822579515 What I learned this morning is that it came a day after New College of Florida stated it hadn't destroyed gender studies books (but rather gave them away after shutting program, and the books in dumpster were something else). Assuming that's true, it's interesting Rufo, a trustee of the school, still chose to present it as gender studies books being trashed; because he knew there's an audience that would applaud.

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  • So you think banning books is a right wing phenomenon? I could give you a list of books banned by the left, including "To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “Huckleberry Finn.”

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  • You're right. A right-wing as well as a left-wing phenomenon.

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  • Walz said that anyone outside would be "aiding and abetting" the rioters, which is not true. It's hardly a surprise that the cops then thought they could enforce that view with paintball guns, and it's also ironic because he let much of Minneapolis get burned down.

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  • As for the truancy issue, why would I need to read further on the matter? Her instincts were to use the criminal justice system to fix a problem that should have been handled in other ways, and parents did get arrested. This is a fact.Walz's government maintained a method for people to report their neighbors for failing to abide by social distancing rules during covid.Gee, where else has this happened in history? Kamala and Walz both have authoritarian instincts, and the Democratic Party is not the party of freedom.

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  • Here's Kamala's quote on criminalizing truancy: "We recognized, as a prosecutor in law enforcement, I have a huge stick." Scary stuff.

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  • That quote is from a presentation in 2010; video and transcript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKaCFmNefHA She talks about the "stick" at 16:40 with context that school district has "carrot"; they need to work together. Later (49:51): "so that we're clear I'm not talking about kids who are playing hook[ie], I'm talking about children who are in first [second] third fourth grade literally missing 60 70 80 days of 180 day school year." There also already was a Calif law enabling prosecution, as the NPR article I cited noted; the new law tried to standardize it, and repeatedly offer services as an alternative. I can see criticizing all of this, though I'm not sure it's all that unusual.

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  • I'm not sure about the California law that you cite but I don't care what law was already on the books. Kamala admitted that her staff was aghast over her stance on the issue, which would be surprising if there were already such a statute on the books. They were aghast because they could see what an abuse of power it was. I can't figure out why you are defending her on this after she's already admitted that this was a mistake. Makes you sound like a true believer.

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  • The reason I argue these points is not because I favor what she did, but because you misrepresent it. You conflate her actions as SF DA (2004-2011) with the 2010 state law (effective 2011) she advocated as candidate for and then attorney general, and then with how other DAs used that law, which is what she says she regrets. I'm a true believer in getting the facts straight.

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  • I get that you're Mr. Facts, but maybe it's you who can't get the facts straight. I never brought up the California law and I told you I don't care about it, making it difficult for me to conflate it with anything. What I care about is that Kamala, referencing her "big stick," spoke in public about wanting to put parents in jail if their kids were truants, said her staff had a major problem with this stance, and then she laughed. But it's not funny. And what you did then was obfuscate by bringing up the Cali law, sending me a bunch of links I don't want, and trying to strawman me. I also don't care how other DAs used the law, which I oppose, and never mentioned it.

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